On 12/20/2018 8:45 PM, Jason Resch wrote:


On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 10:10 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



    On 12/20/2018 4:30 PM, Jason Resch wrote:


    On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 1:16 PM Brent Meeker
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



        On 12/20/2018 1:11 AM, Jason Resch wrote:


        On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 5:39 PM Bruce Kellett
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 9:47 AM Brent Meeker
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                On 12/18/2018 6:34 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
                That wasn't my question.  Do you believe your
                experience rules out the block universe?
                If you mean a pre-determined universe, I think that
                is ruled out by quantum randomness.  But I don't
                think our experience rules out there being a
                4-dimensional map of all events.


            Sure. General relativity gives us the idea of a
            4-dimensional Lorentzian manifold, over which one can
            lay a coordinate chart.
            But that is not an ontology.


        But my point is it could be (and that it is a simpler theory
        if it is).

        But the inference often drawn from this picture is
        hyper-determinism.  Hyper-determinism isn't impossible, but
        it's not implied by the fact that there can be 4-space map
        for labeling events.


    What is hyper determinism and how does it different from plain
    old determinism?

    It includes the behavior of the experimenters, so Alice and Bob
    don't have any freedom to choose the orientation of detectors. 
    Gerard t'Hooft is the main advocate.


Is it the same thing as super determinism?

I don't think what I described is super-determinism, as what I described is a many-worlds theory.

A many blocks theory?

Brent


Jason
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