On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 10:10 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On 12/20/2018 4:30 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 1:16 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On 12/20/2018 1:11 AM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 5:39 PM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 9:47 AM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 12/18/2018 6:34 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >>>> >>>> That wasn't my question. Do you believe your experience rules out the >>>> block universe? >>>> >>>> If you mean a pre-determined universe, I think that is ruled out by >>>> quantum randomness. But I don't think our experience rules out there being >>>> a 4-dimensional map of all events. >>>> >>> >>> Sure. General relativity gives us the idea of a 4-dimensional Lorentzian >>> manifold, over which one can lay a coordinate chart. >>> But that is not an ontology. >>> >>> >> But my point is it could be (and that it is a simpler theory if it is). >> >> >> But the inference often drawn from this picture is hyper-determinism. >> Hyper-determinism isn't impossible, but it's not implied by the fact that >> there can be 4-space map for labeling events. >> > > What is hyper determinism and how does it different from plain old > determinism? > > > It includes the behavior of the experimenters, so Alice and Bob don't have > any freedom to choose the orientation of detectors. Gerard t'Hooft is the > main advocate. > > Is it the same thing as super determinism? I don't think what I described is super-determinism, as what I described is a many-worlds theory. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

