On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 10:10 PM Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > On 12/20/2018 4:30 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 1:16 PM Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> >> >> On 12/20/2018 1:11 AM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 5:39 PM Bruce Kellett <bhkellet...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 9:47 AM Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 12/18/2018 6:34 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >>>> >>>> That wasn't my question. Do you believe your experience rules out the >>>> block universe? >>>> >>>> If you mean a pre-determined universe, I think that is ruled out by >>>> quantum randomness. But I don't think our experience rules out there being >>>> a 4-dimensional map of all events. >>>> >>> >>> Sure. General relativity gives us the idea of a 4-dimensional Lorentzian >>> manifold, over which one can lay a coordinate chart. >>> But that is not an ontology. >>> >>> >> But my point is it could be (and that it is a simpler theory if it is). >> >> >> But the inference often drawn from this picture is hyper-determinism. >> Hyper-determinism isn't impossible, but it's not implied by the fact that >> there can be 4-space map for labeling events. >> > > What is hyper determinism and how does it different from plain old > determinism? > > > It includes the behavior of the experimenters, so Alice and Bob don't have > any freedom to choose the orientation of detectors. Gerard t'Hooft is the > main advocate. > > Is it the same thing as super determinism? I don't think what I described is super-determinism, as what I described is a many-worlds theory. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
