On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 10:10 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On 12/20/2018 4:30 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
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> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 1:16 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On 12/20/2018 1:11 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
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>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 5:39 PM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]>
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>>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 9:47 AM Brent Meeker <[email protected]>
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>>>> On 12/18/2018 6:34 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
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>>>> That wasn't my question.  Do you believe your experience rules out the
>>>> block universe?
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>>>> If you mean a pre-determined universe, I think that is ruled out by
>>>> quantum randomness.  But I don't think our experience rules out there being
>>>> a 4-dimensional map of all events.
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>>> Sure. General relativity gives us the idea of a 4-dimensional Lorentzian
>>> manifold, over which one can lay a coordinate chart.
>>> But that is not an ontology.
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>> But my point is it could be (and that it is a simpler theory if it is).
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>> But the inference often drawn from this picture is hyper-determinism.
>> Hyper-determinism isn't impossible, but it's not implied by the fact that
>> there can be 4-space map for labeling events.
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> What is hyper determinism and how does it different from plain old
> determinism?
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> It includes the behavior of the experimenters, so Alice and Bob don't have
> any freedom to choose the orientation of detectors.  Gerard t'Hooft is the
> main advocate.
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Is it the same thing as super determinism?

I don't think what I described is super-determinism, as what I described is
a many-worlds theory.

Jason

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