On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 06:22:35PM -0700, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
wrote:
> 
> But how complete must the self-model be. 

That is the 64 million dollar question.

> As Bruno has pointed out, it can't
> be complete.  Current Mars Rovers have some "house keeping"self-knowledge,
> like battery charge, temperature, power draw, next task, location, time,...

I don't think that's enough. I think it must have the ability to
recognise other (perhaps similar) robots/machines as being like
itself.

> Of course current rovers don't have AI which would entail them learning and
> planning, which would require that they be able to run a simulation which
> included some representation of themself; but that representation might be
> very simple.  When you plan to travel to the next city your plan includes a
> representation of yourself, but probably only as a location.
>

Hod Lipson's starfish's representation of itself is no doubt rather
simple and crude, but it does pose the question of whether it might
have some sort of consciousness.


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