There are 

I: Information
E: Experience 
M: Matter 

Some think selfhood can be made of pure-I; others think pure-E.

Most modern materialists think I-type M is enough.
But experiential materialists think it's (E+I)-type M.

The ancient materialist Epicurus thought there were physical (I) and 
psychical (E) atoms, so he was already an experiential materialist.

- pt

On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 5:34:16 AM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote:
>
> The only downside being that... the robot does not exist. People are 
> tricking themselves too easily into personifying objects. There is no robot 
> there, there are just a bunch of atoms that bang into each others. You can 
> move those atoms around all day long as you want. You will not create 
> self-reference or "self models" or "imaginations of itself". These are just 
> concepts that exist in the mind of the "researchers" and the "researchers" 
> not getting outside of the lab too often, start to believe their own 
> fantasies.
>  
> On Thursday, 18 April 2019 10:11:09 UTC+3, Philip Thrift wrote:
>>
>>
>> *Columbia engineers create a robot that can imagine itself*
>>
>>

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