> On 1 May 2019, at 11:06, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List 
> <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Well, I invite you to formalize red in whatever logic you want, and then work 
> your magic for blind people and make them see red solely by understanding 
> your formalisation.


I can formalise the notion of universal machine, prove from mechanism + that 
theory of machine, that red is a non formalisable experience, like actually any 
first person experience. 



> 
> Good luck!

You asked me something which my theory, which is not mind, but the one by the 
universal machine itself, can prove the impossibility.

Bruno




> 
> On Wednesday, 1 May 2019 11:37:01 UTC+3, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> I know you will not do it, but formalising in first order logic would clarify 
> a lot. 
> 
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