> On 29 Apr 2019, at 08:44, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List > <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > You cannot invalidate the fact that consciousness is all there is, because > for any fact X that you assume that you discover, that X is a thought in > consciousness.
But I don’t see why this invalidate that there would be something more than my consciousness, for example the possible consciousness of some other. In fact, all universal machine, when they introspect themselves deeply enough, are somehow obliged to assumed some reality which transcend them. Of course, they cannot prove that such reality is really there, that is why they will assumed it. Now, it is not much, as eventually it is the universal dovetailing, or the partial computable part of the arithmetical reality (which is very tiny compared to the full first order arithmetical reality, not mentioning the full second order arithmetic, which is analysis). > > Evolution is the evolution of consciousness - That makes some sense, especially for the human consciousness, but with mechanism we assume elementary arithmetic, and then we can see that each “virgin” universal code is a initial staring point for a maximal consciousness to differentiate into particular experiences and local relativisation. That is the source of the material histories, which exists only in the mind of those universal numbers. > I don't see where I borrow anything from materialist ideas. Evolution is > deducible directly from looking at qualia. There are no "bodies" that evolve, > but consciousnesses that evolve. That is what you have to elaborate. I can interpret this favourably (in the mechanist frame) or not. It is a bit too much vague, as I expect, actually, from a theory which assumes consciousness. Bruno > > Brain scans is scans about systems of interacting consciousnesses - I don't > see where I borrow anything from materialist ideas. > > Otherwise, when you say "my ideas", what exactly are you referring to ? Is > not clear to me what you consider my ideas to be. It seems to me that you > don't even pay any attention to what I am saying. I don't know what you > expect from me. Probably to give you all the answers in the universe. Well... > this nobody is able to do. But if you would really pay attention to my ideas, > you would see for example that my ideas are able to explain the passage of > time, a thing that nobody done before, and in principle is a Nobel prize > worth explanation. > > On Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:10:31 UTC+3, Terren Suydam wrote: > That is, what fact could you discover that would invalidate your ideas? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
