It's late here and I'm going to sleep. But I will add just one point. As I mentioned earlier, the definition that I'm giving for "existence" is the looking-back-at-itself of self-reference, through which self-reference finds objects in itself and identifies with those objects. "Existence" is basically that property that makes things with definite properties: red is red, sweet is sweet, etc. So it is a rather precise definition. Nevertheless, self-reference itself is unformalizable. Self-reference neither exists nor not-exists. And depending on what other characteristics this peculiar state of affairs fully entails that consciousness later on displays on its own certain characteristics, including evolution that might not necessarily be part of consciousness per se. This is where the difficulties lie: in understanding what unformal entities actually can do, what kind of powers do they have.
On Wednesday, 1 May 2019 23:00:30 UTC+3, Terren Suydam wrote: > > And then once you assume it, you contradict your statement that only > consciousness exists. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
