> On 3 May 2019, at 01:08, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 5/2/2019 9:02 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> I guess you meant “clonable”; On the contrary, with mechanism matter is not >> clonable for all its aspect belonging below our substitution level, > It's merely your supposition that the not clonable (I quoted your "coinable") > is below the level at which substitution effects consciousness.
Not at all. It is the consequence of step 1-6. Or the consequence of the fact that a machine cannot know which machine she is, or which computations support her in arithmetic. > But I wonder what effect we are worrying about. Suppose we did this > duplication and the Moscow man and the Washington man both then denied they > were conscious, yet still behaved exactly as before? ? How could they behave exactly the same, and denied that they were conscious. When? I do not understand. Bruno > > Brent > > >> which has to exists (due to the infinity of computations going through or >> relevant finite state), so that the non cloning theorem confirms mechanism. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

