On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 10:47 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On 3 May 2019, at 20:09, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 5/3/2019 7:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> The current darkness comes from the separation of theology from > science, making exact science inexact and human science inhuman. > >> > >> Religion is the only goal, > > > > That's the kind of absolutist pronouncement that priests and despots > have used to justify oppression and atrocities from auto-de-fe' to > Buchenwald. > > I could have put that truth, or meaning, or value, is the only goal, but, > normally, with what follow, i.e. “science is the only mean”, people should > understand that this assume the minimum spiritual maturity of those who > knows that in the religion domain, the argument-per-authority is not just > not valid, it is catastrophic. > > > > > > > >> > >> Science is the only mean. > > > > And every person is an end. > > Absolutely. > > Which should invite to be skeptic on all metaphysics which threat the > existence of persons. > > Theology is today full of BS, not because theology is BS, only because > theology has been separated from science, with the goal to use it as a way > to control people. The prohibition of medication, and the idea that a > government can have a word on this, in place of you or your doctor, is the > same phenomenon. It is how liars get power, by appropriating the domain out > of the serious and modest inquirers. The USSR did that with genetics, > because theology was already just forbidden, and materialism (even the > strong version) was obligatory. It is always the use of the argument per > authority, in place of questions and other questions. > > Bruno > > > I just found this quote by Godel, where he concluded mostly the same: There would be no danger of an atomic war if advances in history, the science of right and of state, philosophy, psychology, literature, art, etc. were as great as in physics. But instead of such progress, one is struck by significant regresses in many of the spiritual sciences. [123] http://kevincarmody.com/math/goedel.html Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
