On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 2:51 AM Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote:
> *> But what is information processing?* > It is the process of extracting information from data, and information is the resolution of uncertainty. And my unproven assumption (which will never be proven but is the only thing that prevents me from becoming a solipsist) is that consciousness is the way data feels when it is being processed. *> a robot - which is matter - that is doing very advanced, high-level > information processing - could be a winner on Jeopardy, and talk to you in > a conversation, could be a zombie.* If you somehow knew for a fact a brilliant being was a zombie then you could immediately make one conclusion about it, the being could NOT be the product of Darwinian Evolution because Natural Selection can see intelligence but it can't see consciousness in others any better than we can, and it can't select for something it can't see. But of course there is no way you could ever know a brilliant being was a zombie or know he was not a zombie either unless a important assumption is made, intelligent behavior implies consciousness. *> Are you a zombie?* No. But isn't that what you'd expect a philosophical zombie to say? > *Now I would just way that the jury is out about qualia ⇨ information.* > The jury is NOT out over the fact that if your consciousness changes the informational processing of your brain changes and if the informational processing of your brain changes your consciousness changes. Regarding all other matters involving consciousness the jury is still out and will remain out until the end of time, and that's why complex consciousness theories are such a complete waste of time. > *> If the above paper is right, then it's sort of settled, right?* > The question of consciousness is as settled as it's ever going to be, that's why the field of consciousness research has not moved an inch or even a nanometer in a century. But Artificial *INTELLIGENCE* research is alive and well. > > *I still think the phenomenologists are right, that quaia is a > different type of entity than information,* > Obviously they're different things but they're intimately related. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv02QVjF%2B%3DOkjsZs1_EEJizYPxbTX53Qf08hagBra-72mA%40mail.gmail.com.
