> On 4 Jun 2019, at 17:42, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 10:55 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >> you said atheism is just a slight variation of Christianity and believe my > >> saying Aristotle was the worst physicist who ever lived means I have > >> embraced Aristotle's ideas as an act of faith. > > > The physics is wrong, which is nice as it means that Aristotle was clear > > enough to be shown wrong. > > Aristotelian physics could have been easily disproven even with 2500 year old > technology, and yet for 2000 years any suggestion that it might not be > flawless was met with derision if not violence.
That is not Aristotle fault, but the fault of abandoning the most fundamental science to “politics”. With the Renaissance, only a part of science has been freed from “authority”. > Physics would be more advanced today if Aristotle had never been born. That is hard to refute, or to prove. > > > Criticising the scientifically-minded theology of the greek neoplatonist > > *is* so typical among christians. You really defend them all the time, DE > > FACTO. > > The new total is now (6.02*10^23) +2. > > And I've already told you how I figure out which book is most likely to clear > up my confusion of how the world works but you *STILL* haven't said how you > do it. > > >> Immortality means never having a last thought and the only way I know how > >> to do that is with infinity. > > >That would happen in circular model of time, like in Gödel GR universe. > > But the Gödel GR universe is not the one I live in, my universe does not > rotate. How do you know that? We don’t have yet a picture of what is beyond the observable universe, nor do we have even a coherent theory of the physical universe. We have to jewels: QM and GR, but they are insistent when taken together, and both would contradict Mechanism (the hypothesis in cognitive science) if taken as the fundamental theory. Bruno > > John K Clark > > > > > Bruno > >> >> John K Clark >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv0mypGvD8s38UWfp9SZmR3SjMy7gGdihU-CoQ%2BDK3kguw%40mail.gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv0mypGvD8s38UWfp9SZmR3SjMy7gGdihU-CoQ%2BDK3kguw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1E21AB58-D37F-407A-B72D-544C3E883F20%40ulb.ac.be > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1E21AB58-D37F-407A-B72D-544C3E883F20%40ulb.ac.be?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1sgpYi7Ns%2BOE%2BJMNZskkH3q_KySAOWAXu3mxjF4Fr2%2Bg%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1sgpYi7Ns%2BOE%2BJMNZskkH3q_KySAOWAXu3mxjF4Fr2%2Bg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/6DE6C9B6-69B0-4C38-A3CA-9A193EC5BD5E%40ulb.ac.be.
