On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 7:50:10 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 7:41:24 AM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 7:03:05 AM UTC-5, Eva wrote: >>> >>> @Lawrence Crowell >>> >>> Very interesting, does it mean that everything is connected not only >>> spatially but also temporarily? >>> >> >> Sort of. The Wheeler delayed choice experiment indicates there is a time >> aspect to entanglement as well. Look that up on Wikipedia, and it is a bit >> odd. Quantum states and their entanglements are not something that exist in >> space or time, but which may have a representation in such. Things get a >> little odd with time because there is no such thing as a universal time >> operator. If there were it would mean the conjugate of time, which is >> energy, as an operator can't have a discrete spectrum. >> >> >>> @Philip Thrift >>> >>> Retrocausation? So, I'm thirsty because I will drink water? This is to >>> much for me :/ >>> >> >> >> Huw Price and Wharton have been beating this dead horse for a long time. >> Not many physicists take this seriously, for it would mean there is an >> underlying causal mechanism that would obey Bell inequalities. The Bell >> theorem illustrate how quantum physics violates these. The retrocauality >> idea is very much an auslander conjecture that not many take seriously. >> >> LC >> > > > > > This topic has been discussed for about 20 years here, beginning in the > original group. >
By 'here' I meant on atvoid and atvoid-2 (the sequel), not everything-list. But the point is this topic was discussed for 20 years, beginning in the group started by Victor Stenger (Timeless Reality). Physics does not rule backward (or downward, for that matter) causation in or out, and someone who tells you absolutely it is ruled out has no understanding of physics. > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/atvoid > > Some are a dense today about this as they were 20 years ago. Don't buy > into the fundamentalist cult catechism (and a total misunderstanding of > physics) expressed above. > > > @philip thrift > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/d8093e3a-65f8-4636-8f74-b509370597bc%40googlegroups.com.
