On 8/27/2019 4:45 PM, Jason Resch wrote:

    Minsky:  No I'd say to say that this button is real is to say it's
    in this universe that we're in *to say that the universe is real
    makes no sense at all it's just possible*.


    (Emphasis mine)


However trivial the word existence was to Minsky, he believed that "this" the reality he found himself in, could be the result of a computer programming that was not even running, just because it is a set of logical possibilities. To me, this sounds much closer to what Bruno describes, our being computations in arithmetical realism, then it is to your dictum that only physical computers cab do anything, and only if they're turned on and change and use energy.

He says "that's where we have to stop" not because it doesn't make any sense, he explicitly says the opposite, saying "that's the only kind of existence that makes sense".

Of course whatever happens is possible.  But it doesn't follow that whatever is possible happens.

Brent

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