> On 16 Sep 2019, at 06:59, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 9/15/2019 5:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> Why would it even have a simple goal like "survive”? >> It is a short code which makes the organism better for eating and avoiding >> being eaten. > > An organism needs to eat and avoid being eaten because that what evolution > selects. AIs don't evolve by natural selection.
A monist who embed the subject in the object will not take the difference between artificial and natural too much seriously, as that difference is artificial, and thus natural for entities developing super-ego. Machines and AI does develop by natural/artificial selection, notably through economical pressure. The computers need to “earn their life”, by doing some work for us. It is only one loop more in the evolution process. That is not new. Jacques Lafitte wrote a book in 1911 (published in 1930) where he argues that the development of machine is a collateral development of humanity, and that this is the continuation of evolution. > >> >> >> >> >>> And to help yourself is saying no more that it will have some fundamental >>> goal...otherwise there's no distinction between "help" and "hurt”. >> It helps to eat, it hurts to be eaten. It is the basic idea. > > For "helps" and "hurts" what? Successful replication? No. Happiness. The goal is happiness. We forget this because some bandits have brainwashed us with the idea that happiness is a sin (to steal our money). The goal is happiness, serenity, contemplation, pleasure, joy, … and recognising ourselves in as many others as possible. To find unity in the many, and the many in unity. Bruno > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/6cbdd7be-9474-ceb0-86fa-7e269c9c8a71%40verizon.net > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/6cbdd7be-9474-ceb0-86fa-7e269c9c8a71%40verizon.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/62FF5446-9917-4265-96BF-B95CF3C3233D%40ulb.ac.be.
