On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 5:08 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 1:02:39 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 4:51 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 3:54:46 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 9:22 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> *> When physics began to give non-intuitive results, in QM
>>>>> and Relativity, people when overboard. Now any patently absurd result 
>>>>> finds
>>>>> its justification among true believers.*
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And in this context "patently absurd" means odd, not logically
>>>> contradictory not paradoxical not contrary to experimental results, just
>>>> odd. But as far as we know there is no law that says nature can't behave in
>>>> ways that humans find odd.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Many "odd" results are now mainstream, but MWI is bridge too far, way
>>> too far IMO. Why don't you just accept that the wf is simply irrelevant
>>> after the measurement occurs like in the horserace example?. Here, there's
>>> no collapse, no many worlds, no need to explain where the energy comes from
>>> which defines these worlds, and so forth? AG
>>>
>>
>> Except that horses and horse races do not interfere (except in Australia,
>> where several jockeys and trainers have recently been suspended for
>> unauthorised interference -- but that is a different matter!)
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>
> I know. I was just being illustrative. But note that Carroll says much the
> same thing when he says worlds are created when you make a left or right
> turn, or flip a coin (or some equivalent analogy). AG
>

And that is where Sean slips inevitably into woo-woo.

Bruce

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