> On 21 Sep 2019, at 17:00, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 4:02:09 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > I think he means one can replace a human brain and/or nervous system with > computer microchips and consciousness will be preserved, or perfectly > simulated so the person who says "Yes doctor", will awake from the surgery > thinking he/she's the same person, like awakening from unremarkable surgery. > From my pov, this belief is a huge, huge stretch since we can even define > what consciousness IS. AG > > Bruno; does "Yes doctor" mean that a patient accepts as fact that removing > his/her brain and/or nervous system and replacing it with microcircuits > preserving the same functions, yields a surgical result such that the patient > upon awakening seems to him or herself, and others, as the same "person" who > previously approved the surgery?
The patient cannot accept this as a fact. It is something he can hope only. Then, if mechanism is true, by definition he was correct, but even after the operation, he cannot claim that as a fact, despite its personal impression. He might have lose a faculty and not be aware of it, like people can become blind and be unaware of the change, in some special brain disease (anosognosia). > Is this the essence of mechanism? If not, please elaborate. TIA, AG Yes, it is mechanism, but it requires an act of faith. Now, to be sure, taking a plane, or even a bike, requires some faith too, but here, that play an important role in the sequel, and so that nuance has to be taken into account. Rational machine have a surrational corona extending what they can justify. That corona has a precise mathematical structure, and is used to derive the laws of physics from arithmetic. Bruno > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/f2deceff-c0b2-4991-b54b-c8b78a8b46e8%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/f2deceff-c0b2-4991-b54b-c8b78a8b46e8%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/3E4C8DA2-05C6-4DC3-9385-466FF7789F6F%40ulb.ac.be.
