On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 5:50:53 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
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> On 10/12/2019 3:57 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
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> On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 4:49:36 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: 
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>> On 10/12/2019 2:23 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
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>> I don't see how Bohr saved the theory (of superposition?) by making that 
>>> declaration. Isn't there general agreement today that everything is 
>>> quantum? AG
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>>> There is now, but "Shut and calculate" produced huge advancements in 
>>> understanding physics, chemistry, and biology and produced the solid-state 
>>> electronics revolution - without metaphysics getting in the way.
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>>> Brent
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>> Where have I introduced metaphysics? If a superposition means that all 
>> components are simultaneously realizied, 
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>> What does "realized" mean?  made real?  Being real is a metaphysical 
>> concept.  Bohr never said anything about components of a superposition 
>> being real.  He famously said “Physics is not about how the world is, it 
>> is about what we can say about the world” and “Everything we call real is 
>> made of things that cannot be regarded as real.”
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>> Brent
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> The latter comment is ridiculous. Aren't protons, neutrons and electrons 
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> Ask Bohr.  You never answer my questions; why should I answer yours.
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What questions haven't I answered??? AG 

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> In the case of the Cat, "real" means it's alive and dead simultaneously. 
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>> which I presume is Bohr's position, this is where metaphysics has been 
>> introduced, unless it can be shown valid. Does double slit interference 
>> mean all components are simultaneously realized, which is the road to MW? 
>> Why is this interpretation valid? AG 
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