On 10/18/2019 7:39 AM, John Clark wrote:

Yes but you can't expect to learn anything if you look at the developed photograph and then decide whether to erase the which way information or not. If you decide to erase the information do you imagine you will see the photograph change before your eyes??

It will change before your eyes when you partition the points into those whose erasure measurement was left rather than right.  Didn't you read Carroll's blog explication of the experiment?  Many worlds are irrelevant to the phenomenon.



    > /If the welcher weg information is quantum erased, then there will
    be an interference pattern, whether or not it is a conscious
    observer who is erased./


If that's the way the exparament turns out and a interference pattern exists but Many Worlds does not exist then how do you explain the existence of a signed document testifying that somebody observed the photon going through one and only one slit and the he knew which one? Inquiring minds want to know.

I want to know how the AI did the measurement and the erasure, and what consciousness had to do with it?  We could easily connect a computer to the array of particles whose spin is used to record the welcher weg.  But how would the AI of the computer "know" those values.  I think it would have to interact with them so as to create classical records, in which case the interference would be wiped out.  On the other hand if the AI is only required to know that the array of particles recorded the welcher weg and then were quantum-erased by a measurement in the orthogonal basis, it can sign the affadavit and the interference pattern will be there implicit in the partition of the film spots according to the result of the erasure experiment...just as Carroll describes.  But the existence of this affadavit is not mysterious.  A human experimenter who knows and understands the setup could sign an affadavit saying the welcher weg was known and then erased.

Brent


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