On 10/19/2019 8:49 AM, smitra wrote:
On 19-10-2019 00:33, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote:
On 10/18/2019 1:04 PM, John Clark wrote:

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM 'Brent Meeker'
<[email protected]> wrote:

_ > I want to know how the AI did the measurement_

The same way a human does.

In that case it would not be erasable because a human being is big and
hot and decoherence would be statistically irreversible.  The point of
imaging a conscious AI in a quantum computer was that the quantum AI
could "know" things yet still quantum erase them.

It would be erasable in principle, because of local nature of the laws of physics (I'm not talking about quantum non-locality here, that's irrelevant here). When you perform a measurement and are conscious about the results, this process unfolds in a finite amount of time, therefore only a finite number of physical degrees of freedom can have become entangled with the measured quantum system. That number may be astronomically large, but it's ultimately just a finite number.

So that would make it just as irreversible as thermodynamics.  But in fact it's even less reversible, because only a bit of information has to be carried away at the speed of light, so that it is in-principle irreversible, to prevent erasure.


This means that the entire process can be simulated by a quantum computer that has only a finite number of qubits. It doesn't matter that it cannot be done in practice for the argument that QM (where everything including observers are described in a unified way) implies the MWI. The only way to avoid the MWI is to assume that QM is not exactly true.

You mean Everett's QM...whether it's QM is what the question.  QM worked just fine for 30yrs without Everett.  And QBism is an alternative that leaves QM exactly true; just interpreted differently.

Personally, I think the long sought theory that merges QM and GR may modify QM by cutting off small probabilities based on the holographic principle.

Brent

But note that QM not being exactly true may still lead to a multiverse.

Saibal



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