On 10/18/2019 1:04 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM 'Brent Meeker' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    /> I want to know how the AI did the measurement/


The same way a human does.

In that case it would not be erasable because a human being is big and hot and decoherence would be statistically irreversible.  The point of imaging a conscious AI in a quantum computer was that the quantum AI could "know" things yet still quantum erase them.

    /> and the erasure,/


The same way Lewis and then Wheeler said.

    /and what consciousness had to do with it? /


The AI's consciousness, which it claims to have, has just as much to do with it as your consciousness has, which you also claim to have. And that would be zero, which is also exactly as much evidence I have that either of your claims of being conscious are true.

I agree it should have nothing to do with it.  But I think it was an essential point for Deutsch because he wanted to test whether consciousness collapsed the wf.  However, as I wrote, it's been a long time since I read Deutsch's experiment.  What I was referring to in my post was Carroll's blog description of the delayed erasure experiment.

And Brent there is one more thing, you're dead wrong about the information being erased after the photograph is made, and I think deep down you've come to realize that.

I don't know what you're talking about.  It's explicit in Carroll's blog that the welcher weg is erased after the many particles have hit the screen a at low rate (one per hour).

Brent


John K Clark

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