On 10/26/2019 1:36 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 25 Oct 2019, at 23:46, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
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On 10/25/2019 4:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 23 Oct 2019, at 20:21, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
<[email protected]> wrote:



On 10/23/2019 6:17 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
NUMBER explains CONSCIOUSNESS which explains the origin of the physical MATTER, 
which explains the origin of the physical human body and its local 
consciousness.
Which explains NUMBER.
Which explains the human discovery and conception of the number.
Number and the conception of number are the same thing.
With mechanism, the numbers, or the combinators (etc.) are taken as primitive.

The conception of number is then explained by the mental abilities of the 
universal Turing machine/numbers.

The numbers is the object of study of elementary arithmetic.

The conception of numbers is the object of study of anthropology and or 
computer science.



That's why it's an abstract concept.  There could be no number 2 without the 
concept of two things being similar and so in the same class. Without this 
conceptual relation, s() would just be marks on paper.

Then physics before the human appeared cannot make sense.

Category error.  You equivocate on "physics".  Physics, the theories of matter and energy, would indeed not make sense.  But "physics" the subject of the theories would still exist.  "To make sense" is a relational property of the two.

Brent

How could the Big-Bang even exists, if two electrons cannot exist without 
humans?

Bruno


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