On Sunday, October 27, 2019 at 4:27:09 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
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> On 10/27/2019 2:24 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
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> On Sunday, October 27, 2019 at 2:52:01 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: 
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>> On 10/26/2019 11:43 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
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>> Here's what I understand about an electron in the double slit experiment. 
>> It doesn't occupy two locations simultaneously as a particle. Rather, when 
>> *not* observed it behaves like a wave, goes through both slits, and 
>> interferes with itself. When observed, it behaves as a particle. 
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>> There's your problem.  You're insisting that the electron is changing 
>> around because it "behaves" differently.  The behavior is in your 
>> interpretation.  It's not in the mathematics.  So the fact that it seems to 
>> jump around in ontology is the fault of your interpretation trying to 
>> impose a medieval idea of substance.
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> And your interpretation is that the mathematics says the electron has two 
> positions or paths simultaneously, and goes through both slits? 
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> The wf goes thru both slits.
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That's more or less what I said. AG 

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> Where does the mathematics assert that unintelligible claim? Waves can go 
> through both slits, but not particles. 
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> In your classical world view.
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Not necessarily classical, but rather interpreting the "particle" as a wave 
when we don't look; a quantum pov. My interpretation explains why 
interference disappears in which-way experiment, but what the hell, we can 
forget about that, and adopt an unintelligible pov.  AG 

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> And here I thought you'd appreciate my interpretation. AG 
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>> Now please explain the form of the wf in S cat experiment, applying 
>> decoherence before and after it completes, while the box is closed. TIA, AG
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>> There's in no "before and after it completes".  The process of transition 
>> from undecayed to decayed is continuous, at least that's the MWI picture.  
>> When you open the box (or even earlier) your brain becomes correlated, via 
>> decoherence, with one or the other of the branches of the wf.
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>> Brent
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