On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 4:27:48 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 29 Oct 2019, at 18:50, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > > The sciences do not try to explain, they hardly even try to interpret, > they mainly make models. By a model is meant a mathematical construct > which, with the addition of certain verbal interpretations, describes > observed phenomena. The justification of such a mathematical construct is > solely and precisely that it is expected to work. > --—John von Neumann > > > > Science has stopped to seek the “why” since the “why” has been stolen by > criminals. Be it through the stealing of theology, like 1500 years ago, or > by the stealing of the health politics, like about 100 years ago. > > We can handle the why, once we accept o abandon the search of “certainty” > (which, with mechanism, is close to insanity). > > > Religion starts by telling us "why". Lets see the making is work part > first. > > > > I would say that religion starts from the semantic or the intuition, and > then we make a theory trying to get that semantic, but it can never succeed > completely, so science do exploration, and has to correct its view again > and again. > > Religion is the (only) goal. > Science is the (only) mean. > > Both science and religion can become perverted when mixed with a tyranny > or with other roots of argument by authority, and dogma. > > Religion is the belief in (some) Truth. > (Fundamental) Science is the research of that Truth. > > Mechanism + Tarski implies that such a fundamental truth cannot be > defined, which is useful in the theory of consciousness (which cannot be > defined either, except by reference toward such a Truth). > > Bruno > > >
Pragmatism's first rule: Don't talk about truth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzynRPP9XkY @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/0b8c31bc-5c47-486e-ab0e-5a0ff7b2abe6%40googlegroups.com.
