On 10/29/2019 3:36 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 28 Oct 2019, at 19:36, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
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On 10/28/2019 4:34 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 4:16 AM Philip Thrift <[email protected]
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/> We don't even know yet what gravity is./
I think General Relativity gives us a better fundamental
understanding of what gravity is than we have for understanding what
electromagnetism is, all Einstein starts with is the existence of
movement, that is spacetime, and mass. Electromagnetism needs all
that too but also needs to assume the existence of something called
"electrical charge".
> "we could be leaving an age of analysis to enter an age of
synthesis. We may be synthesizing things (materials science,
synthetic biology, nanotechnology) that we cannot analyze
(explain why they work)."
Science can tell us how things work, but as for why...... logically
the chain of why questions either goes on forever or it doesn't and
ends in a brute fact, after that there is no why, that's just the
way things are.
John K Clark
The sciences do not try to explain, they hardly even try to
interpret, they mainly make models. By a model is meant a
mathematical construct which, with the addition of certain verbal
interpretations, describes observed phenomena. The justification of
such a mathematical construct is solely and precisely that it is
expected to work.
--—John von Neumann
Science has stopped to seek the “why” since the “why” has been stolen
by criminals. Be it through the stealing of theology, like 1500 years
ago, or by the stealing of the health politics, like about 100 years ago.
We can handle the why, once we accept o abandon the search of
“certainty” (which, with mechanism, is close to insanity).
Religion starts by telling us "why". Lets see the making is work part
first.
Brent
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