> On 29 Oct 2019, at 21:24, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 1:50 PM 'Brent Meeker' 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Religion starts by telling us "why". 
> 
> There is one why question religion can not answer and claims it would be 
> wicked to even ask: Why is a religious answer better than no answer at all?

If a religion answers, with an air of claiming it is a definitive answer; then 
it is not a religion, but a fraud.

The religion is just the faith that there is a rational, intelligible, answer, 
but it will never claim to have it, except under the form of a theory to be 
tested.

Of course, most institutionalised religions *are* fraud, since a long time. 
They are just tools to give power to a tyran by exploiting the childhood 
nostalgia of having a “Father”, and the fear of death, etc. They hide the 
scientific theology which brought doubts on all theories, and by this way, on 
all tyran’s pretensions.

Making theology back in science is just allowing doubts and critics in the 
fundamental science, but today, some scientists are (consciously? 
Unconsciously) religious by mocking those who doubt the last theology in 
fashion (materialism). The problem is that by mocking any science, it let the 
science in the hand of the charlatans of the intistutionalised religion, and no 
progress are possible, except secretly by the dissidents or the courageous 
people.

Religion is the assumption of meaning. Science is the mean top make it clearer 
and testable so that we can improve the fundamental research. Both Mechanism 
and Quantum Mechanics illustrates the difficulties of the Materialist 
Metaphysics/Religion.

Bruno




> 
> > Lets see the making is work part first.
> 
> Yes indeed! Until you know how something works you don't even know what why 
> question to ask; for example medieval theologians were constantly asking why 
> there were only 5 planets in the universe, 7 if you count the sun and the 
> moon which they called planets. 
> 
>  John K Clark
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