> On 28 Oct 2019, at 19:36, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 10/28/2019 4:34 AM, John Clark wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 4:16 AM Philip Thrift <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> > We don't even know yet what gravity is.
>> 
>> I think General Relativity gives us a better fundamental understanding of 
>> what gravity is than we have for understanding what electromagnetism is, all 
>> Einstein starts with is the existence of movement, that is spacetime, and 
>> mass. Electromagnetism needs all that too but also needs to assume the 
>> existence of something called "electrical charge".  
>> 
>> > "we could be leaving an age of analysis to enter an age of synthesis. We 
>> > may be synthesizing things (materials science, synthetic biology, 
>> > nanotechnology) that we cannot analyze (explain why they work)."
>> 
>> Science can tell us how things work, but as for why...... logically the 
>> chain of why questions either goes on forever or it doesn't and ends in a 
>> brute fact, after that there is no why, that's just the way things are.
>> 
>> John K Clark
> 
> The sciences do not try to explain, they hardly even try to  interpret, they 
> mainly make models. By a model is meant a  mathematical construct which, with 
> the addition of certain verbal  interpretations, describes observed 
> phenomena. The justification of  such a mathematical construct is solely and 
> precisely that it is  expected to work.
>     --—John von Neumann


Science has stopped to seek the “why” since the “why” has been stolen by 
criminals. Be it through the stealing of theology, like 1500 years ago, or by 
the stealing of the health politics, like about 100 years ago. 

We can handle the why, once we accept o abandon the search of “certainty” 
(which, with mechanism, is close to insanity).

Bruno



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