On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 12:27 PM Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 at 11:15, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 11:00 AM Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 at 10:25, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Superdeterminism in comics >>>> <https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/fossils-3> >>>> >>> >>> Isn’t that what Many Worlds says? The entangled particles are correlated >>> because they are in the same world. >>> >> >> That isn't an explanation of the correlation. That is just the fact of >> the correlation. >> >>> The mysterious instantaneous interaction appears that way because of >>> apparent randomness due to the impossibility of the observer knowing which >>> world he is in. >>> >> >> That makes no sense. >> >>> The universe as a whole is determined in every detail, and random choice >>> of the observer in measuring a particle is not really a random choice. >>> >> >> If you believe that, you believe in magic sauce. >> > > It is a consequence of Many Worlds that there is no true randomness, but > only apparent randomness. If Many Worlds is wrong, then this may also be > wrong. Randomness in choice of measurement is required for the apparent > nonlocal effect when considering entangled particles. > Super determinism works only in single world models. There can be no true or apparent randomness in a super deterministic setting. So many-worlds, since it encompasses apparent randomness in every branch, is ruled out. Likewise, EPR correlations are observed in every branch of the wave function, so ignorance as to which branch you are on can form no part of the explanation of those correlations. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLTxoZ0Zba9Rh29DZKQAxst49k6a6EfsoHHJhskrA32ZgQ%40mail.gmail.com.
