> On 7 Nov 2019, at 02:50, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 12:27 PM Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 at 11:15, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 11:00 AM Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 at 10:25, John Clark <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Superdeterminism in comics <https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/fossils-3> > > Isn’t that what Many Worlds says? The entangled particles are correlated > because they are in the same world. > > That isn't an explanation of the correlation. That is just the fact of the > correlation. > The mysterious instantaneous interaction appears that way because of apparent > randomness due to the impossibility of the observer knowing which world he is > in. > > That makes no sense. > The universe as a whole is determined in every detail, and random choice of > the observer in measuring a particle is not really a random choice. > > If you believe that, you believe in magic sauce. > > It is a consequence of Many Worlds that there is no true randomness, but only > apparent randomness. If Many Worlds is wrong, then this may also be wrong. > Randomness in choice of measurement is required for the apparent nonlocal > effect when considering entangled particles. > > Super determinism works only in single world models. There can be no true or > apparent randomness in a super deterministic setting. So many-worlds, since > it encompasses apparent randomness in every branch, is ruled out.
In the WM mechanist self-duplication, there is no super-determinism, no true randomness, but there is still apparent randomness in the two branches. > > Likewise, EPR correlations are observed in every branch of the wave function, > so ignorance as to which branch you are on can form no part of the > explanation of those correlations. The question “which branches am I on” does not make sense. We are always on many branches at once. Bruno > > Bruce > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLTxoZ0Zba9Rh29DZKQAxst49k6a6EfsoHHJhskrA32ZgQ%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLTxoZ0Zba9Rh29DZKQAxst49k6a6EfsoHHJhskrA32ZgQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/FDB3E91C-6D57-4A9A-8824-0E7F7C32F7DB%40ulb.ac.be.
