> On 7 Nov 2019, at 09:21, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, November 6, 2019 at 7:27:32 PM UTC-6, stathisp wrote: > > > On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 at 11:15, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 11:00 AM Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > The universe as a whole is determined in every detail, and random choice of > the observer in measuring a particle is not really a random choice. > > If you believe that, you believe in magic sauce. > > It is a consequence of Many Worlds that there is no true randomness, but only > apparent randomness. If Many Worlds is wrong, then this may also be wrong. > Randomness in choice of measurement is required for the apparent nonlocal > effect when considering entangled particles. > -- > Stathis Papaioannou > > > That's what Many Worlds implies. > > The mystery is: Why do (according to the science press in the wake of Sean > Carroll's book) so many people think Many Worlds is a good scientific idea > (or the best idea, according to the author).
For the same reason that it is simpler to believe in all (natural, or real) numbers, than in any particular number. The mechanist has no choice, and this explains both qualia and quanta (thanks to the Solovay separation of G* and G) without adding any ontological commitment other than in a universal machinery (needed to define what a computer is). So the answer is conceptual simplicity, or Occam razor. Using the less assumptions as possible. > > > Superdeterminism - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdeterminism > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdeterminism> - though apparently is a > "One World" theory. Yes, you get super determinism from the many-worlds less all worlds but ours. That is just an abandon or rationality. Something implicitly illustrated in the aforementioned comics. Bruno > > @philipthrift > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/d1b4821a-56d1-4b49-a1ba-ebea4a321ee7%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/d1b4821a-56d1-4b49-a1ba-ebea4a321ee7%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/F852EC83-838E-4A88-B14C-AEAFCF3C68AC%40ulb.ac.be.
