On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 6:35 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On 11/7/2019 12:21 AM, Philip Thrift wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, November 6, 2019 at 7:27:32 PM UTC-6, stathisp wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 at 11:15, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 11:00 AM Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The universe as a whole is determined in every detail, and random
>>>> choice of the observer in measuring a particle is not really a random
>>>> choice.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you believe that, you believe in magic sauce.
>>>
>>
>> It is a consequence of Many Worlds that there is no true randomness, but
>> only apparent randomness. If Many Worlds is wrong, then this may also be
>> wrong. Randomness in choice of measurement is required for the apparent
>> nonlocal effect when considering entangled particles.
>>
>>> --
>> Stathis Papaioannou
>>
>
>
> That's what *Many Worlds* implies.
>
> The mystery is: Why do (according to the science press in the wake of Sean
> Carroll's book) so many people think Many Worlds is a good scientific idea
> (or the best idea, according to the author).
>
>
> Because it treats measurement as just another physical interaction of
> quantum systems obeying the same evolution equations as other interactions.
>

But you can do that (viz. accept that people, and measuring instruments,
and everything else are basically quantum mechanical) without adopting the
"many worlds" philosophy. Most contemporary physicists adopt such a view of
the quantum origin of everything without taking Bohr's "primacy of the
classical" seriously. So this is not a sound reason for adopting many
worlds.

Bruce

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