On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 6:35 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < [email protected]> wrote:
> On 11/7/2019 12:21 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > On Wednesday, November 6, 2019 at 7:27:32 PM UTC-6, stathisp wrote: >> >> On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 at 11:15, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 11:00 AM Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> The universe as a whole is determined in every detail, and random >>>> choice of the observer in measuring a particle is not really a random >>>> choice. >>>> >>> >>> If you believe that, you believe in magic sauce. >>> >> >> It is a consequence of Many Worlds that there is no true randomness, but >> only apparent randomness. If Many Worlds is wrong, then this may also be >> wrong. Randomness in choice of measurement is required for the apparent >> nonlocal effect when considering entangled particles. >> >>> -- >> Stathis Papaioannou >> > > > That's what *Many Worlds* implies. > > The mystery is: Why do (according to the science press in the wake of Sean > Carroll's book) so many people think Many Worlds is a good scientific idea > (or the best idea, according to the author). > > > Because it treats measurement as just another physical interaction of > quantum systems obeying the same evolution equations as other interactions. > But you can do that (viz. accept that people, and measuring instruments, and everything else are basically quantum mechanical) without adopting the "many worlds" philosophy. Most contemporary physicists adopt such a view of the quantum origin of everything without taking Bohr's "primacy of the classical" seriously. So this is not a sound reason for adopting many worlds. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLROp6cpM9rgiOguFiAYG2-h-%2B8YgDqopOu1eJPBb-4RkA%40mail.gmail.com.

