On 11/19/2019 6:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 18 Nov 2019, at 22:14, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



On 11/18/2019 12:20 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:


On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 1:16:46 PM UTC-7, John Clark wrote:

    On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 7:43 AM Philip Thrift
    <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:

        *> /Adrian Kent/*/'s/ https://arxiv.org/abs/1305.6565
        <https://arxiv.org/abs/1305.6565> /"real path quantum
        theory" *RPQT*/


    If you fire electrons at 2 slits and observe the slits then each
    electron takes a real path through one and only one slit and no
    interference pattern is produced.  If you fire electrons at 2
    slits and do NOT observe the slits then a interference pattern
    is produced indicating that each electron went through both
    slits. Thus real path quantum theory needs 2 sets of physical
    laws, one for when things are observed and one when they are
    not. Many Worlds only needs one set of physical laws, and one
    set is more parsimonious than two.


That's what the evangelists for MWI say.  But in fact some more stuff is needed to explain why we see the world as we do, i.e. how probability comes into it and why is there a preferred basis.  Maybe this more stuff can be derived from Schroedinger's equation, but even to do so seems to require additional assumptions.

With mechanism: it requires *less* assumptions. Any physics accepting the mechanist theory of mind must explain the physical appearance from a measure on all (relative) computations.

You frequently use this unconditional form of "must" when you actually mean "must, if my theory is right"  which is trivial.

Brent

The math required for doing this requires more axioms (like the distribution of prime number studies seems to require analytical axioms). That is normal, given incompleteness.

Bruno




Brent

    And if everything that can happen does happen then unlike its
    competition Many Worlds doesn't have to explain exactly what a
    "observation" is or worry about the true nature of consciousness
    because it has nothing to do with it.

    John K Clark


You're hopelessly deluded. AG
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