On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 6:29:32 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote:
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> On 1/22/2020 5:08 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
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>> When you measure something and it is so close to zero as to be 
>> indistinguishable from zero, then taking it to be zero is not an assumption.
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> *Why don't you compare the measured value with the curvature of a sphere 1 
> LY in diameter, or !0^6 LY in diameter? Do you really think the curvature 
> would be significantly different from the measured value of the universe? I 
> doubt it. So, taking it to be zero, is just what you prefer, nothing more. 
> CMIIAW, AG*
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> No, because zero is a physically interesting value.  There maybe some 
> unrecognized symmetry principle that makes it zero.  It's unlikely that 
> there's some symmetry principle that makes it 1e-6.  That's why physicist 
> look at the data as evidence for zero.  Of course they may be wrong.  But 
> it's not because they are just pulling assumptions out of thin air.
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> Brent
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*Why assume there's some symmetry principle to drive the curvature to zero? 
It could be just because the universe is huge. I don't think the cases are 
distinguishable by measurements. OTOH, the article points to some 
measurements of the CMBR that imply a spherical universe. Are they in any 
way persuasive? AG *

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