On 2/21/2020 1:16 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:


On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 2:33:12 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote:

    On Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 1:56:02 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift
    wrote:


        On Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 8:58:15 AM UTC-6, Lawrence
        Crowell wrote:

            It is not so simple. Language as with any symbolic system
            is incomplete. So any symbolic structure will by Gödel's
            theorem be incapable of proving it's consistency.
            Wittgenstein seemed to recognize this and backed away from
            his Tractus.

            Even with basic physics we have F = ma, which has a force,
            a dynamical quantity, equal to mass, kinematical, times
            acceleration that is geometrical. This is a categorical
            confusion! Yet we appeal to this as a fundamental
            principle. That has a few aspects of metaphysics.But




        But of course "F = ma" is simply a string of characters which
        is interpreted by our program(s) of physics. Force, mass,
        space, time are all*fictional entities* ("characters" in
        another sense!) that are fitted into its framework.

        @phiilipthrift


    But, the different parts, F, m and a have different units of
    measure, which is what is of relevance.

    LC



Didm't Vic say all measurements can be reduced to rulers and clocks?
Then something to do with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckingham_%CF%80_theorem

Vic said just clocks.  The constancy of the speed of light allows time measurements to be used to measure distances...and in fact that's how high precision distance measurements are made.

Brent


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