On Tuesday, March 3, 2020 at 12:16:41 PM UTC+1, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 2 Mar 2020, at 17:42, PGC <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > > > > > Then show me a worm's brain working in arithmetic. The felicity of doing > so wouldn't ever mean, we've truly achieved what we set out to do, but the > model and simulation would shed light on how far or close we are to > realizing the core component of the thought experiment, and therefore it's > plausibility at some point in time. Then people could make up their own > minds on whether the problem is valid, or as Wittgenstein suggests, > apparently a time waster of the usual kind, which ontological reasoning and > identity questions have 2000 years track record of being. A German > conservative parliamentarian intent on blocking parliament from some action > he was opposed to, recently stated in a newspaper: "we should have a > fundamental discussion on the subject."; knowing full well that all one has > to do to block action is to loose people in defending their fundamental > convictions. > > >> the fact that you survive or die is not a metaphor. >> > > Well, show us! > > > > Saying for an artificial brain, and surviving with it, like we assume when > we bet on mechanism, is not metaphorical. The artificial brain is no more a > metaphor than an artificial heart. > > You talk like if I was trying to prove Mechanism to be true, but that is > simply not the case. > > > Bruno >
Nobody needs mechanism or a multiverse to get infinite Brunos. "Which Bruno?" yours truly ends up asking: The Bruno that advocates mechanism, the other Bruno that would never do such a thing, the Bruno that is platonist, the Bruno that is agnostic, the Bruno that enjoys life, the immortal Bruno that sees life as a prison samsara, the humble Bruno, the proud prize winning Bruno, the victim Bruno, the Einstein Bruno etc? Eventually, with so many Brunos and their goalposts, there is one certainty: Bruno's friends, supporters, companions, and peers, on this list or beyond it, are fine, generous, and open-minded people. They have the only thing that may approach a "correct attitude towards science", something that might be worth remembering from time to time. PGC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/652451a6-17e1-4e60-80c3-08a96ca89837%40googlegroups.com.
