> On 4 Mar 2020, at 22:27, PGC <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, March 3, 2020 at 12:16:41 PM UTC+1, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 2 Mar 2020, at 17:42, PGC <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Then show me a worm's brain working in arithmetic. The felicity of doing so >> wouldn't ever mean, we've truly achieved what we set out to do, but the >> model and simulation would shed light on how far or close we are to >> realizing the core component of the thought experiment, and therefore it's >> plausibility at some point in time. Then people could make up their own >> minds on whether the problem is valid, or as Wittgenstein suggests, >> apparently a time waster of the usual kind, which ontological reasoning and >> identity questions have 2000 years track record of being. A German >> conservative parliamentarian intent on blocking parliament from some action >> he was opposed to, recently stated in a newspaper: "we should have a >> fundamental discussion on the subject."; knowing full well that all one has >> to do to block action is to loose people in defending their fundamental >> convictions. >> >> the fact that you survive or die is not a metaphor. >> >> Well, show us! > > > Saying for an artificial brain, and surviving with it, like we assume when we > bet on mechanism, is not metaphorical. The artificial brain is no more a > metaphor than an artificial heart. > > You talk like if I was trying to prove Mechanism to be true, but that is > simply not the case. > > > Bruno > > Nobody needs mechanism or a multiverse to get infinite Brunos. > > "Which Bruno?" yours truly ends up asking: The Bruno that advocates > mechanism, the other Bruno that would never do such a thing, the Bruno that > is platonist, the Bruno that is agnostic, the Bruno that enjoys life, the > immortal Bruno that sees life as a prison samsara, the humble Bruno, the > proud prize winning Bruno, the victim Bruno, the Einstein Bruno etc? > Eventually, with so many Brunos and their goalposts, there is one certainty: > Bruno's friends, supporters, companions, and peers, on this list or beyond > it, are fine, generous, and open-minded people. > > They have the only thing that may approach a "correct attitude towards > science", something that might be worth remembering from time to time. PGC
It is like with the guy in Helsinki. Someone is Bruno, of PGC, or anyone, who have the memory of being a continuation of the Bruno, PGC, who were in Helsinki. It is like with the Schroedinger cat, we fix someone at some instant in the past, usually before an experience of self-duplication, or self-superposition, and consider the extensions from that point. That is all we need in the current discussion, I think. Bruno > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/652451a6-17e1-4e60-80c3-08a96ca89837%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/652451a6-17e1-4e60-80c3-08a96ca89837%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/685DBA3C-7A29-4A68-97D2-1D0FAB1BE04B%40ulb.ac.be.
