Your people didn't try it with zinc (long time respiratory treatment) which was 
the Zelenko method. I don't care about whether the Donald (new term for the 
American leader), approves or not, but rather does the trio of hydro + zinc + 
arithro work together to rapidly alleviate symptoms that cause mortality? If 
anything else works, faster please. The opposition to hydro is driven by 
ideology, and never medical science. Sans, zinc, hydro may be useless. Because 
my enemy built and used MP-40 submachine guns, would not cause me from using 
one, as needed. 


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On Friday, July 31, 2020 at 3:58:02 PM UTC+2, Bruno Marchal wrote:


On 30 Jul 2020, at 22:59, PGC <[email protected]> wrote:


On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 10:52:09 PM UTC+2 Brent wrote:

 
 
 On 7/30/2020 1:02 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
  
 Refute this Telmo- https://www.henryford.com/ news/2020/07/hydro-treatment- 
study 
  https://www.ijidonline.com/ article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/ fulltext 
  One viewer here indicated this was not a study-but it is a study indeed 
concluding the benefits of Hydro.  
  Now what do I think? If it works it works, and if it doesn't it doesn't.   
 
 That's just false.  Some things work on some infections in some people using 
some protocols of care.  


Agreed. Ongoing large scale international clinical trials are what they are. 
Nobody claims that they or the papers in their wake are perfect, but to pretend 
that a few tiny studies are "in need of refutation" or that the world's 
epidemiological community is orchestrating conspiracies without evidence like 
some on Twitter and on social media tend to peddle, is naive or evidence of the 
effectivity of disinformation, not evidence of effectivity of medication. 

OK in principle. But we can also look at the map of the evolution of the virus 
in country using it and not using it. My own country has used it, France has 
used it, then change its mind, a number of time.We can also take into account 
that the US FDA has lied about “not evidence of effectivity of cannabis” since 
about a century. It is only very recently that it has admit its effectivity for 
some disease in some public way (it accepted it more discreetly for some rich 
patients since long though).



But if Telmo and/or Mitch need, they can always get in touch with their closest 
epidemiologists/docs and ask for the data and emails, and inform the 
coordinating committee of their findings and worries, citing who they wish. 
While data of the majority of ongoing trials and appropriate epidemiological 
discourse may not be accessible on the net or published ("ongoing" being 
somewhat relevant...), it isn't classified or anything. PGC


I have done that a little bit, but it is hard to interpret. A biologist friend 
of mine seems to believe that the Canadian studies showing that 
Hydroxychoroquine is better than Remdesevir is rather serious. The amount of 
money hidden in the pharmaceutical debate is so big that the misinformation is 
perpetual. But you are right: it is not classified, and even just googling on 
the net shows that hydroxychloroquine, when used convenably, *might* be better 
than some other medication, and perhaps cannabis is still better (as more and 
more studies seem to show).

If you, Mitch, Telmo, your biologist friend, or Trump have data concerning 
effectiveness of HCQ with significant sample sizes in randomized 
placebo-controlled trials, and can demonstrate that said trials are free of 
epidemiologists' long lists of possible issues/bias, then the only thing 
stopping you guys from stepping forward and making world history as 
non-professionals is your own minds. PGC


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