On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 10:55:13 AM UTC-7 [email protected] 
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> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 10:05 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> * > in GR universes evolve in time, but cannot instantaneously evolve 
>> faster than the SoL.*
>>
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> In 1905 Einstein discovered Special Relativity and said nothing 
> whatsoever could move faster than light, but by 1915 he had found General 
> Relativity and had to amend that to some extent, he still insisted that 
> matter or energy or information cannot move through space faster than 
> light, but he placed no speed limit on how fast space itself can expand.  
>
> *> In the MWI, worlds come into existence fully formed as it were, that 
>> is, replete with copies of observers. You want to have your cake and eat as 
>> well; that is, appealing to GR, but inconsistently instantaneously creating 
>> fully formed worlds, say like the one we live in. AG *
>>
>
> MWI doesn't say if a new universe is created instantaneously or if the new 
> creation only comes into existence at the speed of light; it doesn't say 
> because it does it need to, it works fine either way. MWI Is agnostic 
> about that. 
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>> *> If your claim that the net energy of the universe is zero is 
>> associated with the universe as a whole, not for some part of it, then it 
>> must be speculative. No calculation can be done to establish it.  Correct?*
>
>
> Correct, that can only be established through observation and 
> experimentation. However if General Relativity is correct and if empty 
> space does contain residual vacuum energy (both those things can only be 
> determined through observation and experimentation but the evidence is 
> piling up that both are correct) then the net amount of energy in the 
> universe is indeed zero.
>

*What's your argument, or please repeat and refine it, that IF there exists 
residual vacuum energy, then the net gravitational energy must be zero. AG *

>
> John K Clark
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