On 4/28/2021 12:03 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 2:41 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:/> one can discover whether your reports of green qualia correspond to something consistent in our shared world,/Consistency is not the same as identity.If what you and I mean by the words "red" and "green" were inverted then both of us would still say tomatoes are red and leaves are green, but those things would not look subjectively the same to us.
How do you know that? If you can't know they're the same, you can't know whether they are different either.
Notice that I referred to "reports". You're worrying whether the qualia are the same...contrary to your own avowal that there's no there there.
Brent
John K Clark On 4/28/2021 9:06 AM, John Clark wrote:/> If we can explain why, for example, you see stars if you bash the back of your head,/ It might be able to explain why I say "I see green stars" but that's not what you're interested in, you want to know why I subjectively experience the green qualia and if it's the same as your green qualia, but no theory can even prove to you that I seeany qualia at all.No, but one can discover whether your reports of green qualia correspond to something consistent in our shared world, as opposed say to your reports of little green men when drunk. That's why we have a word for qualia which is different from Illusion. Brent-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the GoogleGroups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/6de72d8c-4326-c86e-d69d-206edec25c98%40verizon.net <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/6de72d8c-4326-c86e-d69d-206edec25c98%40verizon.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. --You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1wtDbm2b_7ddN4CD4AL3%2BthLNFOximoZqGZ7BTw6d0QA%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1wtDbm2b_7ddN4CD4AL3%2BthLNFOximoZqGZ7BTw6d0QA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>.
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