On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 2:22 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <
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>> If somebody says "pick up that red object" we both know what is expected
>> of us even though we may have very very different mental conceptions of the
>> qualia "red" because we both agree that the dictionary says red is the
>> color formed in the mind when light of a wavelength of 700 nanometers
>> enters the eye, and that object is reflecting light that is doing precisely
>> that to both of us.
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* > But if the qualia of experiencing red is nothing more than the neuronal
> structure and process that consistently associates 700nm signals from the
> retina with the same actions as everyone else, e.g. saying "red", stopping
> at the light, eating the fruit,...then it seems to me it is perfectly
> justified to say people share the same qualia.  That's the engineering
> stance. What the qualia really is, is a psuedo-problem,*
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I pretty much agree. You make a strong argument that you and I are
experiencing the same qualia,  but I can make an equally strong argument
that they can't be the same qualia because if they were then you and I
would be the same person. And that I think is a good indication that you're
right, it is a pseudo-problem, meaning a question that will never have an
answer or lead to anything productive.
John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>

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