Oh, Adolf was trying a sales pitch! What he was trying to do is recruit the 
Jew-haters of the Church which had always worked. He, like Stalin were both 
choir boys. Because Hitler ate Bavarian pastries might not be great argument 
against pastries or having a mustache, for that matter. The trick of both 
Christianity and Islam is the other side. To survive one's death and 
especially, the death of one's loved one's, you have to follow the rules. If 
it's killing the outside, you kill the outsider. Islam may be inflexible on 
this, because of the intermittent wars between Sunni and Shia since the death 
of the Prophet! Sam on this thread can tell ya more than I can. In recent 
Centuries, the idea of Jesus as Forgiver, has been re-emphasized, and that 
aspect troubles many in the middle east because that model of JC does offer a 
way out. What Adolf really believed was that he was called by destiny to rule 
the world, and for a fellow who originally was a male prostitute in Vienna's 
parks to supplement his income as a painter, and rose to lead people, it is not 
hard to see why he believed this. Dolf secretly hated Christianity, for being 
tainted with what he termed, "The Jewish pity ethic."  The comparison to Trump 
show's me that you are trying for a "rise," out of me to respond, and that if 
Trump was Adolf you wouldn't today be at your keyboard commenting on things, as 
the British say, come a cropper. Adolf don't concede elections, savvy? Nyet 
comrade! Do you know anything about Stalin? Dzugadashvili? 


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, Jun 15, 2021 2:06 pm
Subject: Re: Was, Re: The theology of number, (Now) The Universe Learns (not 
released on April 1st)

 
 
 On 6/15/2021 4:21 AM, John Clark wrote:
  
  On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 6:50 PM spudboy100 via Everything List 
<[email protected]> wrote:
  
    
  > Religion acted as a psychological survival kit, 
 
  As in human sacrifice and war? Romans tortured Christians because they 
wouldn't worship their Gods, and when Christians gained power Christians 
tortured non-Christians because they wouldn't worship their God. In England 
Catholics tortured Protestants, and when Protestants took power protestants 
tortured Catholics. And most wars have a strong religious component, even World 
War 2; the leader of Germany hated the Jews and used that hatred as a political 
weapon to gain power, but without religion there wouldn't even be classes of 
people called "Jews" and "non-Jews" to hate and opppress because there would 
just be "people". As for the 911 attacks, well, I won't point out the obvious. 
  The following sewage is a quotation from a speech Adolf Hitler gave on April 
12 1922:
 
 "Today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty 
Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the 
Lord. [...] My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a 
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few 
followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight 
against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a 
fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the 
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the 
scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific 
was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two 
thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever 
before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the 
Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have 
the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything 
which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that 
daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people."  
 
 And people criticize Trump and compare him to Hitler.   Hitler sounds like an 
educated man compared to The Donald.
 
 Brent
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