On 6/19/2021 8:35 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
You appear to operate according to a "mysterian" view of consciousness, which is that we cannot ever know. Several philosophers of mind have expressed this, such as Thomas Nagel I believe.

I have some sympathy with this view, but I ask "cannot know what?". What is you think there is to know?  If you could look at a brain and from that predict how the person with that brain would behave...isn't that the same as what we know about gravity and elementary particles.  We don't know the ding und sich, but so what?

What I think is missing in the JKC's idea that intelligence is interesting and understandable but consciousness isn't, is that he leaves out values.  Intelligence is define in terms of achieving goals.  It's instrumental.  But there's another dimension to thought and behavior (not necessarily conscious) which provides the motivation/goals/values for intelligence and part of intelligence (the part we commonly call 'wisdom' when it works out) is how conflicting values are resolved.

Brent
Reason is, and ought only to be the slave of the passions, and can never pretend to any other office than to serve and obey them.
    --- David Hume

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