On 6/19/2021 3:20 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 5:57 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
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> /What I think is missing in the JKC's idea that intelligence
is//interesting and understandable but consciousness isn't, is
that he//leaves out values. Intelligence is define in terms of
achieving goals. /[...] /the//part we commonly call 'wisdom' when
it works out) is how conflictingvalues are resolved./
But there is nothing unique in the human ability to do that, computers
do that sort of thing all the time. Often there are two values that
affect the rate of a process, one increases the rate and the other
decreases it, the relationship between the two can be quite complex so
it's not at all obvious which will predominate and what the
ultima fate of the process will be, but a computer can calculate it.
I didn't say it was something only a human does. I just pointed out
that it is more (or less) than just intelligence. It's like consulting
an oracle. The oracle may be very intelligent and able to tell you how
to accomplish anything, but be of no help at all in making a decision if
you don't know what value to place on outcomes. Certain values are
built in by evolution, values related to reproducing mostly. There's
nothing "intelligent" about having them, but intelligence has no
function without values.
Brent
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