> On 14 Jun 2021, at 16:21, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 12:18 PM spudboy100 via Everything List > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > > > I am not saying we do not need theology, > > Maybe you're not saying we don't need theology, but I certainly am.
We need science and scientific attitude in all domain. Theology is just the science of the belief in any reality, with the understanding, foreseen by the greek, but proved by Gödel, when we assume mechanism, that nobody can prove that there isa reality (beyond personal consciousness). The god/non-god debate is like a trick by believers in materialism (an hypothesis in theology, not in physics) to make us forget that the original doubt was about the nature of the physical reality: primary or secondary. The doubt was between mathematics and physics as best approach to the fundamental questions. The theology (used in the greek original millenary sense) of the universal+ machine is a branch of mathematical logic/theoretical computer science. You can see Gödel’s theorem (<>t -> ~[]<>t) as the first theorem in machine theology. When you say that we don’t need theology, I guess you mean that we don’t need the fake theology brought by the Roman mixing religion and state, which is indeed a blasphemy. It is bad for the state, and it is bad for science. The Russian made that error with biology. No science at all can be mixed with the state. Bruno > > By the way, the post I'm responding to contained 14 iterations of quotes, > that's quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes of > quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes, and that > makes it a bit difficult to figure out who is saying what to who so I have > removed them. > > John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> > > yab > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv2u728c2V%3Dys689k%3Di6UkYZYLJcaSRfR4OkkOw3mnKD0g%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv2u728c2V%3Dys689k%3Di6UkYZYLJcaSRfR4OkkOw3mnKD0g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/58F04EA5-01C1-422B-BC7C-DB23BB4DBD2B%40ulb.ac.be.
