On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 4:43:00 AM UTC-6 johnk...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 2:17 PM Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *> the Pilot Wave theory assumes each particle has a definite position and 
>> momentum.*
> That's true but unlike Many Worlds Pilot Wave theory is non-local, it 
> postulates there is a mysterious force of some sort that is undiminished by 
> distance in which two particles billions of light years apart can INSTANTLY 
> affect each other without affecting anything in between. It seems to me if 
> that were the case then we'd have to know everything before we could know 
> anything, and that does not conform with observation because although we 
> don't know everything we do know some things. If the universe was really 
> non-local we couldn't even make approximate predictions regardless of if 
> things were deterministic or not.
> Copenhagen assumes a particle has NO position and momentum if it has not 
> been measured. Pilot Wave theory assumes  a particle has ONE position and 
> momentum if it has not been measured. Many Worlds assumes Schrodinger's 
> equation means what it says so a particle has EVERY position and momentum 
> the equation allows regardless of if it has been measured or not. 
> > It doesn't violate the HUP because the HUP simply limits what we can 
>> measure.
> Then you should like Many Worlds because it says everything happens 
> because of Schrodinger's equation, and Schrodinger's equation is 100% 
> deterministic.

We've discussed this before, many times. If S's equation represented a 
horse race, with probabilities changing during the race -- of the order of 
final results -- why do you think the race continues in other worlds, with 
all combinations of outcomes? I think you egregiously misinterpret what S's 
equation is telling us.  AG

Many Worlds explains why that, although from the multiverse point of view 
> things are as deterministic as Schrödinger's equation, to any particular 
> observer in one of those worlds there would be a limit to how accurate his 
> predictions can be.
> John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
> <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
> tpw

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