On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 4:43:00 AM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 2:17 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > *> the Pilot Wave theory assumes each particle has a definite position and >> momentum.* >> > > That's true but unlike Many Worlds Pilot Wave theory is non-local, it > postulates there is a mysterious force of some sort that is undiminished by > distance in which two particles billions of light years apart can INSTANTLY > affect each other without affecting anything in between. It seems to me if > that were the case then we'd have to know everything before we could know > anything, and that does not conform with observation because although we > don't know everything we do know some things. If the universe was really > non-local we couldn't even make approximate predictions regardless of if > things were deterministic or not. > > Copenhagen assumes a particle has NO position and momentum if it has not > been measured. Pilot Wave theory assumes a particle has ONE position and > momentum if it has not been measured. Many Worlds assumes Schrodinger's > equation means what it says so a particle has EVERY position and momentum > the equation allows regardless of if it has been measured or not. > > > It doesn't violate the HUP because the HUP simply limits what we can >> measure. >> > > Then you should like Many Worlds because it says everything happens > because of Schrodinger's equation, and Schrodinger's equation is 100% > deterministic. > We've discussed this before, many times. If S's equation represented a horse race, with probabilities changing during the race -- of the order of final results -- why do you think the race continues in other worlds, with all combinations of outcomes? I think you egregiously misinterpret what S's equation is telling us. AG Many Worlds explains why that, although from the multiverse point of view > things are as deterministic as Schrödinger's equation, to any particular > observer in one of those worlds there would be a limit to how accurate his > predictions can be. > > John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> > tpw > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/b11a3af9-77cb-4de8-92e0-adb37e99e123n%40googlegroups.com.
