On 5/4/2022 4:01 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote:
On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 8:04 AM Brent Meeker <meekerbr...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/4/2022 12:27 PM, smitra wrote:
    In fact, that idea introduces a raft of problems of its own --
    what is
    the measure over this infinity of branches? What does it mean to
    partition infinity in the ratio of 0.9:0.1? What is the mechanism
    (necessarily outside the Schrodinger equation) that achieves this?

    That simply means that there is as of yet no good model for QM
without the Born rule.

    But there is no mechanism for the Born rule.  It is inconsistent
    with pure Schroedinger evolution of the wave function.  I think
    the problem of measures on infinity is overcome if you simply
    postulate a very large but finite number of branches to split.


The trouble if the number of branches is finite is that, given the large number of splits since the beginning of time, you will eventually run out of branches to split.

There's always a bigger, but still finite number.  Hilbert space already assumes continuous complex values.

    Or why not not an continuum probability and just measure by the
    density around the eigenvalue


How do you measure the density? You still need to impose a measure on an infinite set.

The reals have natural measurable subsets which define the Lebesque measure.

https://e.math.cornell.edu/people/belk/measuretheory/LebesgueMeasure.pdf

Brent


    ...the measured values are never exact anyway.  I don't these
    things are wrong or show MWI is inconsistent, but I think they
    show it has just moved the problems it purported to solve off to
    some unobservable worlds, which is no better than CI.


They show that MWI, as proposed by Everett, cannot work without such extensive modification that it is no longer the same theory. What is more, the required modifications are all ad hoc patches -- you lose any claim to rigour.

Bruce
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