On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 3:16 PM smitra <[email protected]> wrote: > On 11-05-2022 06:01, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 1:51 PM smitra <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On 09-05-2022 00:42, Bruce Kellett wrote: > >>> > >>> Such models are certainly inconsistent with the SE. So if your concern > >>> is that the SE does not contain provision for a collapse, then you > >>> should doubt other theories that violate the SE. You can't have it > >>> both ways: you can't reject collapse models because they violate the > >>> SE and then embrace other models that also violate the SE. Either the > >>> SE is universally correct, or it is not. > >>> > >>>> What matters is that such models can be > >>>> formulated in a mathematically consistent way, which demonstrates that > >>>> there is n o contradiction. The physical plausibility of such models > >>>> is another issue. > >>> > > >> > >> As Brent has also pointed out, there amount of information in the > >> visible universe is finite. > > > > That does not limit the number of branches. A finite universe does not > > limit the number of points in a line. > > There is no such thing as a mathematical continuum in the real physical > world.
Can you prove that? There is no evidence that space and time are discrete. There are only a finite number of distinct quantum states > available for a finite universe. Who proved that the universe was finite? This is clear for states below some > total energy E. But there is an upper limit to the total energy due to > gravitational collapse when the energy exceeds a certain limit. > > > >> But one can also consider observers and then > >> each observer has a some finite memory so there are only a finite > >> number of branches the observer can distinguish between. > > > > That does not follow. > > > > If there are only a finite number of states the entire universe can be > in, then that's also true for observers. > That simply begs the question. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLR%2Bakx3k3W3QXHHPCgnYaUZ%3Dp6m8uoxS0RKiyp8Xaw6oQ%40mail.gmail.com.
