On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 3:16 PM smitra <smi...@zonnet.nl> wrote: > On 11-05-2022 06:01, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 1:51 PM smitra <smi...@zonnet.nl> wrote: > > > >> On 09-05-2022 00:42, Bruce Kellett wrote: > >>> > >>> Such models are certainly inconsistent with the SE. So if your concern > >>> is that the SE does not contain provision for a collapse, then you > >>> should doubt other theories that violate the SE. You can't have it > >>> both ways: you can't reject collapse models because they violate the > >>> SE and then embrace other models that also violate the SE. Either the > >>> SE is universally correct, or it is not. > >>> > >>>> What matters is that such models can be > >>>> formulated in a mathematically consistent way, which demonstrates that > >>>> there is n o contradiction. The physical plausibility of such models > >>>> is another issue. > >>> > > >> > >> As Brent has also pointed out, there amount of information in the > >> visible universe is finite. > > > > That does not limit the number of branches. A finite universe does not > > limit the number of points in a line. > > There is no such thing as a mathematical continuum in the real physical > world.
Can you prove that? There is no evidence that space and time are discrete. There are only a finite number of distinct quantum states > available for a finite universe. Who proved that the universe was finite? This is clear for states below some > total energy E. But there is an upper limit to the total energy due to > gravitational collapse when the energy exceeds a certain limit. > > > >> But one can also consider observers and then > >> each observer has a some finite memory so there are only a finite > >> number of branches the observer can distinguish between. > > > > That does not follow. > > > > If there are only a finite number of states the entire universe can be > in, then that's also true for observers. > That simply begs the question. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLR%2Bakx3k3W3QXHHPCgnYaUZ%3Dp6m8uoxS0RKiyp8Xaw6oQ%40mail.gmail.com.