[Philip Benjamin]
The following “[Al-Quran 41:43,44,45, Translation: Literal (word-by-word)]” is
not what is meant by Prophecy in the Scriptures of the Patriarchs, Prophets
and the Apostles: “If and when the battle between Truth (haqq) and Falsehood
(baatil) is fought, it will be critical to have the ability to recognise and
side with the Truth (haqq)”.
No If’s & But’s, only identifiable specifics. What is “Truth” and
“Falsehood”? Nothing specific! Egypt, Assyria, Israel, Judah, Babylon, Greece,
Medo-Persia, [Rome to be], Pilate,
Now, the question is “what is the science in all these that you are
referring to? Point out the specifics. Otherwise no need to continue mere
“notions”, opinions and dogmas.
Example (one among hundreds): Luke 2: 1-4. “ In those days Caesar
Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman
world. (This was the first census that took place while[ Quirinius was
governor of Syria.) And everyone went to their own town to register. So Joseph
also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the
town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David.” “But you,
Bethlehem Ephrathah [not Zebulun],
though you are small among the
clans[b<https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=micah%205&version=NIV#fen-NIV-22636b>]
of Judah,
out of you will come for me
one who will be ruler over Israel,
whose origins are from of old,
from ancient times.”
What is anybody’s hope, if Prophet Mohammad himself has no sure hope:
“Say: 'I am not an innovation among the Messengers, and I know not what shall
be done with me or with you. I only follow what is revealed to me; I am only a
clear warner.' Sura. 46:8-9 Meccan”
‘The Quran repeatedly exhorts spending (infaq, zakat, sadaqah) and declares a
war by Allah and His Messenger against those who consume usury (riba). The
Torah and The Gospels also condemn usury. According to the Quran
4:159<http://islamawakened.com/quran/4/159/>, all People of the Book will
believe in Jesus…”
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The Prophesy
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On 20-May-2022, at 9:01 PM, Philip Benjamin
<medinucl...@hotmail.com<mailto:medinucl...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
[Philip Benjamin]
There is no science of any kind in this site:
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/03/explained-in-detail.html<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsignsandscience.blogspot.com%2F2015%2F03%2Fexplained-in-detail.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cddfd572697ba43f847ce08da3c503362%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637888612407717214%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3JWjfvUFbWMB24CSgW%2Bdx4VxbGNEJ8NrYla9CKMb5%2FQ%3D&reserved=0>
The author repeatedly affirms what Koran claims for itself. That is not
“science “ is defined or understood. Which science are you referring to/Math,
physics, chemistry, biology?
Not only science, where is the “Prophecy” if any in the Koran? This is a one
man book over a period of two or three decades. Even the Delphi of ancient
pagan Greece had some reliable “prophecies”, but the Greeks attributed them to
spirit beings (demons).
That is very much unlike from Genesis 3: 15 (Messianic prophecy), to Micah 5:2
“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Though you are little among the thousands of
Judah, Yet out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be Ruler in Israel,
Whose goings forth are from of old, From everlasting” to Malachi 3:1 (John the
Baptist)
“Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and
the LORD, whom you seek” to Revelation 22:12 “Behold I come suddenly
[imminently]”. That covers over 3,500 years in three different continents by
over 40 different authors (prophets) of diverse backgrounds such as princes,
priests, philosophers, poets, peasants, businessmen, farmers, fishermen, males
& females etc.
Instead of quoting sites, point out specific instances of scientific
statements, or prophetic utterances. Are you claiming that these jinn and Iblis
or spirit beingsare made of “invisible matter”. Stay with science.
Philip Benjamin
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<everything-list@googlegroups.com<mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> On
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War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem
On 19-May-2022, at 7:45 PM, Philip Benjamin
<medinucl...@hotmail.com<mailto:medinucl...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
[Philip Benjamin]
None of these sites quoted for Koran defense answers the basic questions:
1. What “science” if any is involved here?
Explained in Detail
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/03/explained-in-detail.html<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsignsandscience.blogspot.com%2F2015%2F03%2Fexplained-in-detail.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cddfd572697ba43f847ce08da3c503362%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637888612407717214%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3JWjfvUFbWMB24CSgW%2Bdx4VxbGNEJ8NrYla9CKMb5%2FQ%3D&reserved=0>
2. Who gives what authority to whom, how, where and why?
3. How is Iblis or jinn or djinn not the source of Mohammod’s inspiration (or
is it hallucination?4. What has any of these to do with human consciousness or
the Two Great Awakenings thereof which were both historical and historic in
America? Pagan Stalin unconsciously coined the term “American Exceptionalism”
for that.
5. How in the world can Jinn etc. being invisible be brought into any
scientific discussion at all?
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