[Philip Benjamin]
   Now, the question was “what is the science in all these that you are 
referring to? Point out the specifics. Otherwise no need to continue  mere 
notions, opinions and dogmas.
     The following “[Al-Quran 41:43,44,45, Translation: Literal 
(word-by-word)]” is not what is meant by  Prophecy in the Scriptures of the 
Patriarchs, Prophets and the Apostles: “If and when the battle between Truth 
(haqq) and Falsehood (baatil) is fought, it will be critical to have the 
ability to recognise and side with the Truth (haqq)”.
    No If’s & But’s, only identifiable specifics. What is “Truth” and 
“Falsehood”? Nothing specific! Egypt, Assyria, Israel, Judah, Babylon, Greece, 
Medo-Persia, [Rome to be], Pilate,
     Scriptural Example (one among several hundreds):  Luke 2: 1-4. “ In those 
days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the 
entire Roman world.  (This was the first census that took place while[  
Quirinius was governor of Syria.)  And everyone went to their own town to 
register. So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, 
to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of 
David.”  About 1000 years before Luke (737 to 696 BC), Micah 5:2 prophesied: 
“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah [not Zebulun, of Joshua 19:15],  though you are 
small among the clans[ of Judah, out of you will come for me     one who will 
be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from everlasting”.
       What is anybody’s hope, if Prophet Mohammad himself has no sure hope: 
“Say: 'I am not an innovation among the Messengers, and I know not what shall 
be done with me or with you. I only follow what is revealed to me; I am only a 
clear warner.' Sura. 46:8-9 Meccan”
Philip Benjamin
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   From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On 
Behalf Of Samiya Illias
‘The Quran repeatedly exhorts spending (infaq, zakat, sadaqah) and declares a 
war by Allah and His Messenger against those who consume usury (riba). The 
Torah and The Gospels also condemn usury.   According to the Quran 
4:159<http://islamawakened.com/quran/4/159/>, all People of the Book will 
believe in Jesus…”
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Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine 
War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem

The Prophesy
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-battle.html<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsignsandscience.blogspot.com%2F2016%2F06%2Fthe-battle.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cddfd572697ba43f847ce08da3c503362%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637888612407717214%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Ql%2BEqABxsNidEoENa5QyFlSEx6N%2FZYsACRcdiiiW1Rw%3D&reserved=0>


On 20-May-2022, at 9:01 PM, Philip Benjamin 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

[Philip Benjamin]
There is no science of any kind in this site: 
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/03/explained-in-detail.html<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsignsandscience.blogspot.com%2F2015%2F03%2Fexplained-in-detail.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cddfd572697ba43f847ce08da3c503362%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637888612407717214%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3JWjfvUFbWMB24CSgW%2Bdx4VxbGNEJ8NrYla9CKMb5%2FQ%3D&reserved=0>
 The author repeatedly affirms what Koran claims for itself. That is not 
“science “ is defined or understood. Which science are you referring to/Math, 
physics, chemistry, biology?
Not only science, where is the “Prophecy” if any in the Koran? This is a one 
man book over a period of two or three decades. Even the Delphi of ancient 
pagan Greece had some reliable “prophecies”, but the Greeks attributed them to 
spirit beings (demons).
That is very much unlike from Genesis 3: 15 (Messianic prophecy), to Micah 5:2 
“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Though you are little among the thousands of 
Judah, Yet out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be Ruler in Israel, 
Whose goings forth are from of old, From everlasting” to Malachi 3:1 (John the 
Baptist)
“Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and 
the LORD, whom you seek” to Revelation 22:12 “Behold I come suddenly 
[imminently]”. That covers over 3,500 years in three different continents by 
over 40 different authors (prophets) of diverse backgrounds such as princes, 
priests, philosophers, poets, peasants, businessmen, farmers, fishermen, males 
& females etc.
     Instead of quoting sites, point out specific instances of scientific 
statements, or prophetic utterances. Are you claiming that these jinn and Iblis 
or spirit beingsare made of “invisible matter”. Stay with science.
Philip Benjamin

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On 
Behalf Of Samiya Illias
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 8:38 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
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War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem




On 19-May-2022, at 7:45 PM, Philip Benjamin 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

[Philip Benjamin]
None of these sites quoted for Koran defense answers the basic questions:
1. What “science” if any is involved here?

Explained in Detail
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/03/explained-in-detail.html<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsignsandscience.blogspot.com%2F2015%2F03%2Fexplained-in-detail.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cddfd572697ba43f847ce08da3c503362%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637888612407717214%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3JWjfvUFbWMB24CSgW%2Bdx4VxbGNEJ8NrYla9CKMb5%2FQ%3D&reserved=0>


2. Who gives what authority to whom, how, where and why?
3.  How is Iblis or jinn or djinn not the source of Mohammod’s inspiration (or 
is it hallucination?4.  What has any of these to do with human consciousness or 
the Two Great Awakenings thereof which were both historical and historic in 
America? Pagan Stalin unconsciously coined the term “American Exceptionalism” 
for that.
5. How in the world can Jinn etc. being invisible be brought into any 
scientific discussion at all?

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