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> On 24-May-2022, at 3:44 AM, Lawrence Crowell > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well in this debate between Benjamin and Samiya it makes sense that at > least one of them is wrong. They cannot both be right, and they are engaged > in one big brouhaha over this. I say that while logic states at least one of > these guys is wrong. a Bayesian prior or regression analysis would say > probability is very close to one (100%) that both are wrong. > > LC > >> On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 10:32:44 AM UTC-5 medinuclear wrote: >> [Philip Benjamin] >> >> Now, the question was “what is the science in all these that you are >> referring to? Point out the specifics. Otherwise no need to continue mere >> notions, opinions and dogmas. >> >> The following “[Al-Quran 41:43,44,45, Translation: Literal >> (word-by-word)]” is not what is meant by Prophecy in the Scriptures of the >> Patriarchs, Prophets and the Apostles: “If and when the battle between Truth >> (haqq) and Falsehood (baatil) is fought, it will be critical to have the >> ability to recognise and side with the Truth (haqq)”. >> >> No If’s & But’s, only identifiable specifics. What is “Truth” and >> “Falsehood”? Nothing specific! Egypt, Assyria, Israel, Judah, Babylon, >> Greece, Medo-Persia, [Rome to be], Pilate, >> >> Scriptural Example (one among several hundreds): Luke 2: 1-4. “ In >> those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of >> the entire Roman world. (This was the first census that took place while[ >> Quirinius was governor of Syria.) And everyone went to their own town to >> register. So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to >> Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and >> line of David.” About 1000 years before Luke (737 to 696 BC), Micah 5:2 >> prophesied: “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah [not Zebulun, of Joshua 19:15], >> though you are small among the clans[ of Judah, out of you will come for me >> one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from >> everlasting”. >> >> What is anybody’s hope, if Prophet Mohammad himself has no sure hope: >> “Say: 'I am not an innovation among the Messengers, and I know not what >> shall be done with me or with you. I only follow what is revealed to me; I >> am only a clear warner.' Sura. 46:8-9 Meccan” >> >> Philip Benjamin >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >> Of Samiya Illias >> ‘The Quran repeatedly exhorts spending (infaq, zakat, sadaqah) and declares >> a war by Allah and His Messenger against those who consume usury (riba). The >> Torah and The Gospels also condemn usury. According to the Quran 4:159, >> all People of the Book will believe in Jesus…” >> >> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2022 7:07 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine >> War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem >> >> >> >> The Prophesy >> https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-battle.html >> >> >> >> >> >> On 20-May-2022, at 9:01 PM, Philip Benjamin <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> [Philip Benjamin] >> >> There is no science of any kind in this site: >> https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/03/explained-in-detail.html The >> author repeatedly affirms what Koran claims for itself. That is not “science >> “ is defined or understood. Which science are you referring to/Math, >> physics, chemistry, biology? >> >> Not only science, where is the “Prophecy” if any in the Koran? This is a one >> man book over a period of two or three decades. Even the Delphi of ancient >> pagan Greece had some reliable “prophecies”, but the Greeks attributed them >> to spirit beings (demons). >> >> That is very much unlike from Genesis 3: 15 (Messianic prophecy), to Micah >> 5:2 “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Though you are little among the thousands >> of Judah, Yet out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be Ruler in >> Israel, Whose goings forth are from of old, From everlasting” to Malachi 3:1 >> (John the Baptist) >> >> “Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: >> and the LORD, whom you seek” to Revelation 22:12 “Behold I come suddenly >> [imminently]”. That covers over 3,500 years in three different continents by >> over 40 different authors (prophets) of diverse backgrounds such as princes, >> priests, philosophers, poets, peasants, businessmen, farmers, fishermen, >> males & females etc. >> >> Instead of quoting sites, point out specific instances of scientific >> statements, or prophetic utterances. Are you claiming that these jinn and >> Iblis or spirit beingsare made of “invisible matter”. Stay with science. >> >> Philip Benjamin >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Samiya Illias >> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 8:38 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine >> War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 19-May-2022, at 7:45 PM, Philip Benjamin <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> [Philip Benjamin] >> >> None of these sites quoted for Koran defense answers the basic questions: >> >> 1. What “science” if any is involved here? >> >> >> >> Explained in Detail >> https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/03/explained-in-detail.html >> >> >> >> >> 2. Who gives what authority to whom, how, where and why? >> >> 3. How is Iblis or jinn or djinn not the source of Mohammod’s inspiration >> (or is it hallucination?4. What has any of these to do with human >> consciousness or the Two Great Awakenings thereof which were both historical >> and historic in America? Pagan Stalin unconsciously coined the term >> “American Exceptionalism” for that. >> >> 5. How in the world can Jinn etc. being invisible be brought into any >> scientific discussion at all? >> >> >> >> . >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/81276e1e-79b8-41e3-842b-91358d536757n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/07F57212-8D1C-41EE-ADB8-5655B0DCE048%40gmail.com.
