To be honest, I have long believed this to be a flaw in our team. Let us just 
conclude that it goes against whatever B.F. Skinner taught, and he was a very 
solid atheist indeed. If one does things for moral reasons, then it has to do 
with using a deity to generate survival friendly behavior. Doing it for The 
Team requires not belief but ethics.  


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From: Brent Meeker <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, Jul 4, 2022 8:46 pm
Subject: Re: Before Big Bang What?

 Judaism at least teaches that one should do good because it's a virtue.  No 
for rewards either in life or afterward.
 
 Brent
 
 On 7/4/2022 5:22 PM, Samiya Illias wrote:
  
  
Acknowledging the Perfection of our Lord 
  
  No change should there be in the creation of Allah [Quran 30:30]  Mission of 
the Messengers - XXIX    
  
  
  Abstract  To do تَسْبِيحَ of Allah means to acknowledge, declare, and/or 
celebrate that Allah is absolutely perfect. Allah creates perfectly and governs 
excellently. We humans need to acknowledge and appreciate this fact, and 
consequently submit to The Right Religion (الدِّينُ الْقَيِّمُ). 
 
   
  Full Text  The Quran informs us that those who believe and do righteous deeds 
/ acts of reform (آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ), their Lord will guide 
them, due to their faith, to the Gardens of bounty, bliss, delight, pleasure, 
et al (جَنَّاتِ النَّعِيمِ). Upon experiencing the perfection of the Gardens of 
the Hereafter, they will exclaim:   
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2018/10/acknowledging-perfection-of-our-lord.html
     
 
On 04-Jul-2022, at 7:20 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
 
 
  
    On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 9:43 PM Samiya Illias <[email protected]> 
wrote:
    
  
> I think a more immediate and useful question is: What is the purpose of 
> humans (Adam and his progeny)?
 
  According to the religious, the purpose of humanity is to praise God because 
there is nothing God loves more than an endless 24/7 stream of uninterrupted 
flattery. To my mind that makes God seem like a small minded little twit, I'd 
expect something a bit less mundane from an omniscient omnipotent being who 
created the universe, however even if it's true it leaves open one question, 
does God ever ask Himself what His purpose is?      John K Clark    See what's 
on my new list at  Extropolis
   xtq 
  
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